Question:
What is the difference between Islam and Shia Please?
2008-09-05 16:19:28 UTC
What is the difference between Islam and Shia Please?
Sixteen answers:
مسلم
2008-09-05 16:23:48 UTC
Alot



i don't want to copy and paste because it's real long but check this



The Difference between the Shee'ah and the Muslims

http://almuttaqoon.com/index.php?showtopic=271



The History of the Shia

http://almuttaqoon.com/index.php?showtopic=371





Statements Of The Scholars Concerning the Shee'ah

http://almuttaqoon.com/index.php?showtopic=64







there is Only one Islam !



Islam= QURAN+SUNNAH(following the prophet) which means sunni





Shias are following their manmade 12 Imams instead of the prophet !



shias made their Imams and infallible and more superior than prophets

and Angels !



and they believe that the prophet didn't finish his msg

so their Imams finished it



so you have to believe in Imamte which is NOT Islam !



shias have to curse and insult prophet's wives and friends day and night and in their prayers



shias pray to their Imam's instead of Allah like Ya Ali Madad !



many to say about it



Shiaism religion is deviant sect



and not considered as Islam by All Islamic Imams and scholars !

they deviated away from Islam the changed Islam their beliefs

is Anti-islam !







Shia is a deviant sect not Islam !





EDIT: Btw the sites are Islamic and exposed the shias Deviant sect so if you are Muslim i would also provide you more Islamic sites exposed shiaism religion



http://almuttaqoon.com/index.php?showforum=75

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/index.htm



few blogs to expose shias

http://shiaexposed.blogspot.com/

http://shia-show.blogspot.com/





there are many



@ Ali M lol you chellenge me ? you want me to brought the shia hadith from Al kafi which says the prophet used to put his face between breasts of fatima (astaghfirullah) !

or the hadiths of your gods Oops i mean Imams !!!



Btw the Ahlelbayt.com refuted your site lies .
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2016-11-01 07:00:46 UTC
differences in 'Islam' are customarily in overall performance of rites - in any different case customarily the muse of all Muslims is the comparable. All pray the Kalemah al-Shahadah - "there is not any god yet Allah, Mohammed is His Prophet" the pointing out of which makes the guy a Muslim in accordance to the be attentive to the Prophet while he says that anybody who states the shahadah is a Muslim and his existence and components are sancrosanct. All Muslims have confidence interior the Quran because of the fact the divine be attentive to Allah and settle for the pillars of Islam fairly salah (prayer), fasting, zakah (alms tax) and Hajj. some sects have added pillars. the preferable distinction that divides Sunnis and Shias is that the Sunni settle for the Caliphate of Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and then Ali bin Abi Talib together as Shia have confidence that Ali bin Abi Talib became the Prophet's (sa) centred successor. Thereafter the succession of Imamate (religious leaders) is maintained interior the direct successors of the Prophet by using his sons by utilising the marriage of his daughter Fatema with Ali. in this the Shia branch out among themselves watching the imams they together have confidence in. some upto 7, some to twelve. The Daudi (Dawoodi) Bohras have confidence in an imamate succession of 21 imams up till the mid 6th century Hijri (12th advert) while the twenty first Imam went into seclusion and the management mantle became taken up by utilising their appointed Dai in Yemen. The succession of Dais persevered interior the Yemen for roughly 4 hundred years before moving to India the place it maintains till the present. The naming of the sect as Bohras and Dawoodi is because of the Indian, Gujarati roots of the converts there and the association to Syedna Dawood on the time of the chop up with the Suleymani Bohra group. The Bohras traditions and reverence to their chief come under very a selection of of scrutiny and is perceived negatively by utilising many inspite of the reality that maximum folk of Muslim and non-Muslim human beings and communities who come into touch immediately with the sect are forever left with a favorable effect. Bohras recite the Quran, pray, speedy and onserve the Hajj and Umrah. they have a reliable academic ethos - the two religious and temporal and function rarely been in touch in sectarian or political disputes with individuals of different religions. See the area from the Encycopeadia Britannica related under.
http://myshower.net
2008-09-06 07:33:53 UTC
The people who answer this question are mostly sunis. actullay you need to go in detail. they are calling those imams as man made, actually those are from God and prophet.

just one question to all these sunnis whole are talking against shias just.



when our beloved Prophet died where were all of yours beloved Kaliphs.

any answer. need to give me accurate answer...

where were they?

aske your molvees its true they were not there with prophet.



i don't want argument but you should be really care full when you speak about some one.



Shias and Islam is same, just like sunnis in islam shias are also in islam.

thanks alot
rukkii
2008-09-05 16:26:15 UTC
islam is a faith a way of life and a shia is a person from the muslim tree but they have different views on islam and how to practise it and how it was run in the past, and these views can take one out of the fold of islam or lead them into severe missguidance.
HUR
2008-09-05 19:07:28 UTC
shia are the part of islam

shia sunni or other r just thought of school of islam we r all muslim if we say la ila ha il lal lah muhammed RAUSAL ALLAH

PS:

NO ANY MUSLIM CAN SAY IT IS NOT TRUE

Man kunto maula,

Fa Ali-un maula

"Whoever accepts me as a master,

Ali is his master too."

(The above is a hadith - a saying of the Prophet Mohammad (PBH).
2008-09-05 16:24:12 UTC
Islam is a religion and shia are people from a sect who follow Islam.
2008-09-05 16:52:23 UTC
Oh, it's quite simple really!



During Muhammad (P.B.U.H)'s time, no such thing existed as a "shia'a". And He (P.B.U.H) was a Prophet of the Muslims. A long time (more than 14 years) after He (P.B.U.H) died, this cult was formed by a Jew, Abdullah bin Saba. They've got nothing to do with Islam. Just an innovation.



They love to elevate Ali (R.A) and his wife and sons higher than anyone else, and even make their pics. and worship them.



Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah (the son of ‘Ali R.A) said: “I said to my father ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib), ‘Which of the people is the best after the Messenger(P.B.U.H) of Allah ?’ He said, ‘Abu Bakr.’ I asked, ‘Then who?’ He said, ‘‘Umar.’ I was worried that he would say ‘Uthmaan, so I said, ‘Then is it you?’ He said, ‘I am just a man among the Muslims.’” (Reported by at-Tirmidhee, 3805)





EDIT: As for those who r bashing the asker for posting this question and not uniting with the shia'as in Ramadan, my answer is:



(Surah Al-Imraan:105)

وَلاَ تَكُونُواْ كَالَّذِينَ تَفَرَّقُواْ وَاخْتَلَفُواْ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَهُمُ الْبَيِّنَـتُ وأولئك لهم عذاب عظيم

And be not as those who divided and differed among themselves after the clear proofs had come to them, and for them is a great punishment



Al-Muznee (رحمه الله) said:

And Allaah dispraised differing, and ordered to return to the Book and the Sunnah, so if differing was from the Deen then he would not have dispraised it, and if differing was from the legislation then He would not have ordered them to return back to the Book and the Sunnah

(Jaami’ Bayaan al-‘Ilm wa Fadhlihi (2/910)



May Allah bless u for making an effort to expose the shia'a beliefs, and may Allah guide them. (Ameen)
Otherside !!!(Aldeen Nasihah)
2008-09-05 17:14:38 UTC
SUNNIS are the MAIN STREAM (90%)of muslims,Who believe in Quran and Sunnah ,WAy of prophet(P.B.U.H)and also follow the sunnah of his family and companion of the prophet,specially the four rightly guided Khulfah who ruled after prophet (SAW)

.And they accept the interpretation of QURAN and HADITH given by his companion.

Obviously those were the people who understood the quran and hadith(Prohet's(P.B.U.H) saying,the best .SO sunni got all the knowledge from this reliable souce.



There r other sects like shias and qadiyani etc r different than sunni.and out of the fold of islam.



. SHIAS who denied the sincerity of the Ahlbayt (wives)and companion of the prophet(SAW)and claimed that all the companion were hypocrate except the three.So they denied the guaidance of them did not benefit of their knowledge,so lost the main knowledge transfered through them ,thats why they didnt follow the main stream of muslims.And dont have authentic sources.

Even they deny the authenticity of Quran (main Source),bcoz it was compiled by the people who shia belief were not even muslims

So,obviously , shia couldn't trust on the work of dishonest people.and rejected the main knowledge transferd trouhg them.

Their religion based on their Imams ,Who didnt get any power and atlast their twelvth Imam went under ground with their holy book.And will come out from the cave and then bring the real knowledge.So they r still waitting for the real knowledge!!!!

Following shia ref:

Original Quran will not come into view till the manifestation of Imam Mehdi (SHIAs 12th Imam) (Na’uzubillah). [Anwaar-ul-Na'umania, Vol#2, Pg#360 - Published Iran]



Collectors of Quran eliminated virtues of Prophet’s progeny from Surah Al-Ahzab which was about to the length of Surah Al-Bakrah (Na’uzubillah). [Haq-ul-Yaqeen, Pg#66 - Published Iran]



Usman (r.a) made alteration in Surah Al-Rehman by eliminating words “MINKUM” (Na’uzubillah). [Haq-ul-Yaqeen, Pg#525 - Published Iran.

Go to the site for more info.: http://www.ansar.org/english/



recently i have seen shias saying good words for first three caliphs



rafidaahs changed their strategy ,start calling abu bakr & Omar (ra) muslim



See All Q&A from shias in past two three months and their scholars and books ,all cursing Abu Bakr & Omar



" Abu bakr is kafir and who loves him too " ( Naozobillah)



there r thousands of these kind of quotation in their authetic books



calling Abu Bakr and Omar (ra) good muslims



Did they forget that one of them was Murderer and the other was Thief (according to your books),NAOZOBILLAH

As Taqiyyah is ibadah so ramadan more ibadah more Taqiyya,



@Ali M ! which sunni & shia ur talking about .



Shia called All the sunnis kafir and Iblees



"Abu Bakr is Kafir and who loves him too "(baqir majlisi)



there r thousands kufr present in your books

.

U will not find a single muslim (sunni ) who does not love him,

so every sunni kafir in your eyes.



dont use the umberella of taqiyya.
**beep**
2008-09-05 16:23:45 UTC
islam is a religion,

shias are a group of muslims under that religion ( a sub-category)
someone
2008-09-05 16:33:33 UTC
Sunni shia Salafi wahhabi its all just politics, thats the only thing standing between our ummah.
2008-09-05 16:28:02 UTC
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease read...





Al-Hashr

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful



All that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth glorifieth Allah, and He is the Mighty, the Wise. (1) He it is Who hath caused those of the People of the Scripture who disbelieved to go forth from their homes unto the first exile. Ye deemed not that they would go forth, while they deemed that their strongholds would protect them from Allah. But Allah reached them from a place whereof they recked not, and cast terror in their hearts so that they ruined their houses with their own hands and the hands of the believers. So learn a lesson, O ye who have eyes! (2) And if Allah had not decreed migration for them, He verily would have punished them in the world, and theirs in the Hereafter is this punishment of the Fire. (3) That is because they were opposed to Allah and His messenger; and whoso is opposed to Allah, (for him) verily Allah is stern in reprisal. (4) Whatsoever palm-trees ye cut down or left standing on their roots, it was by Allah's leave, in order that He might confound the evil-livers. (5) And that which Allah gave as spoil unto His messenger from them, ye urged not any horse or riding-camel for the sake thereof, but Allah giveth His messenger lordship over whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. (6) That which Allah giveth as spoil unto His messenger from the people of the townships, it is for Allah and His messenger and for the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, that it become not a commodity between the rich among you. And whatsoever the messenger giveth you, take it. And whatsoever he forbiddeth, abstain (from it). And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is stern in reprisal. (7) And (it is) for the poor fugitives who have been driven out from their homes and their belongings, who seek bounty from Allah and help Allah and His messenger. They are the loyal. (8) Those who entered the city and the faith before them love those who flee unto them for refuge, and find in their breasts no need for that which hath been given them, but prefer (the fugitives) above themselves though poverty become their lot. And whoso is saved from his own avarice - such are they who are successful. (9) And those who came (into the faith) after them say: Our Lord! Forgive us and our brethren who were before us in the faith, and place not in our hearts any rancour toward those who believe. Our Lord! Thou art Full of Pity, Merciful. (10) Hast thou not observed those who are hypocrites, (how) they tell their brethren who disbelieve among the People of the Scripture: If ye are driven out, we surely will go out with you, and we will never obey anyone against you, and if ye are attacked we verily will help you. And Allah beareth witness that they verily are liars. (11) (For) indeed if they are driven out they go not out with them, and indeed if they are attacked they help them not, and indeed if they had helped them they would have turned and fled, and then they would not have been victorious. (12) Ye are more awful as a fear in their bosoms than Allah. That is because they are a folk who understand not. (13) They will not fight against you in a body save in fortified villages or from behind walls. Their adversity among themselves is very great. Ye think of them as a whole whereas their hearts are divers. That is because they are a folk who have no sense. (14) On the likeness of those (who suffered) a short time before them, they taste the ill-effects of their own conduct, and theirs is painful punishment. (15) (And the hypocrites are) on the likeness of the devil when he telleth man to disbelieve, then, when he disbelieveth saith: Lo! I am quit of thee. Lo! I fear Allah, the Lord of the Worlds. (16) And the consequence for both will be that they are in the Fire, therein abiding. Such is the reward of evil-doers. (17) O ye who believe! Observe your duty to Allah. And let every soul look to that which it sendeth on before for the morrow. And observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is Aware of what ye do. (18) And be not ye as those who forgot Allah, therefor He caused them to forget their souls. Such are the evil-doers. (19) Not equal are the owners of the Fire and the owners of the Garden. The owners of the Garden, they are the victorious. (20) If We had caused this Qur'an to descend upon a mountain, thou (O Muhammad) verily hadst seen it humbled, rent asunder by the fear of Allah. Such similitudes coin We for mankind that haply they may reflect. (21) He is Allah, than Whom there is no other God, the Knower of the Invisible and the Visible. He is the Beneficent, Merciful. (22) He is Allah, than Whom there is no other God, the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One, Peace, the Keeper of Faith, the Guardian, the Majestic, the Compeller, the Superb. Glorified be Allah from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him). (23) He is Allah, the Creator, the Shaper out of naught, the Fashioner. His are th
anoymous
2008-09-05 16:41:15 UTC
SHAME on you...you have purposely posted this 'question' to cause conflict and offensive comments. you are a shaytaan that gains pleasure to see muslims fight with each other. i hope this holy month of forgiveness does you some good.
2008-09-05 16:32:09 UTC
for all the negative answerers, whats the point in u guys fasting, seriously? :S



do you fear Allah or not?



do u guys know the rules of Ramadan or not?



lol, i bet u wahabis started twitching and get all paranoid, cause nobody has asked a fitna question yet.....than when someone finally does it like a herion addict gets his needle, thats how u guy feel hahahaha



u guys need to go to fitna rehab, u guys have an addiction and u need help, inshallah all of you will get soon :)
Shia of Ali (as)
2008-09-05 17:30:37 UTC
Shias have the highest respect for Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and his family. Shias consider Prophet Muhammad (SAW) as a fountain head of knowledge, Sayyied ul-Ambiah (leader of all the prophets). A prophet is a prophet, even in his mothers womb. It is not correct to say that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) receive the office of prophet hood in the cave of Al-Hira, because He was a prophet from birth. Jesus was a prophet when he was days old, he showed men the miracles of god when he was in the arms of his mother, thus it is unacceptable to think that the greatest prophet of all times had to wait for forty years for his prophethood and to realize that he was a muslim. It would be more appropriate to say that he received his instructions to start his ministry in the cave. Shias say that Prophet Muhammad is far above all creations. He is pious of the pious, a Masoom (sinless). He wouldn't even resort to tark-ul-awla (i.e. miss a recommended act that pleases Allah (SWT) let alone the compulsory ones.) He is an infallible.



In the spiritual state , he (Prophet Muhammad (SAW)) witnessed the rebellion of Azaazil (Shaitan), the creation of Adam (A), the coming of the prophets and the rebellion of mankind all through the ages, until Allah (SWT) willed him to come as the final prophet and take the office of finalizing the religion. In his childhood he knew that he was the Prophet of Allah (SWT) but chose to remained quiet until instructed by Allah. Read Muhammad (SAW) of the Quran for a detailed account of the Prophet.



(Recollect O' Our Apostle Muhammad) When said thy Lord unto the angels: 'Verily I (intend to) appoint a vicegerent in the earth' they said, "Wilt Thou (O' our Lord!) appoint therein one who will cause mischief and shed blood, while we celebrate by Thy praise and hallow Thee alone?" Said (the Lord to the angels) "Verily, I know what ye know not."

Quran 2:30



And (Recollect O' Our Apostle Muhammad) When said Abraham: "My Lord! let me see how Thou enliveth the dead" He said, "What! Dost thou not (then) believe (in it)?" He said " Yea but (I ask Thee for) only that my heart resteth convinced". He said "Take thou four of the birds and make them to incline unto thee, and (cut them into parts) place thou on each mountain a part of them and thereafter call them and they will come unto thee rushing" and know (thou) that God is All-Mighty, All-Wise!"

Quran 2:260



In these and many other verses prophet Muhammad is asked to recollect the incident/memories of the events. One can only recollect the incidents if he is a witness to the events.



To understand this further, - look at the statement of Ali ibn Abi Talib (A). Ali said that he was not taught but rather fed the knowledge by Prophet Muhammad (SAW). This Ali ibn Abi Talib, who in his sermons explains the construct of earth saying that 'the continents are masses of land floating on the ocean and held in place by mountains acting as pegs.' This knowledge was passed to us by Ali ibn abi Talib who claims that he learned all he knew from prophet Muhammad (SAW). Also note that Ali ibn Abi talib explained this construct of the earth come 1400 years ago, while less then 200 years ago, in the west, they were disputed about the shape of the earth, and people were executed by the church in this regards. The knowledge about the continental plates, in the west is un-earthed less then 50 years ago.



This same Ali ibn Abi Talib, in his sermons in the last days of his life, announced to the people, "Ask me before I leave you, and I may tell you all. Ask me for I can tell you of the paths of the heavens more then the path of the earth."



When this is the knowledge imparted by the Ali ibn Abi Talib, the student of Prophet Muhammad - imagine what is the status of that great teacher?



Not only do Shias believe Prophet Muhammad to be perfect, but all the ancestors of prophet Muhammad including Abutalib the uncle of Prophet Muhammad were Muslims following the creed of Prophet Ibrahim (A). Abu Talib accepted Prophet Muhammad as a prophet of God. They never worshiped or even bowed down before any idols. In short all the ancestors of Prophet Muhammad up to Prophet Adam (A) were all Muslims.



Shias believe Ali to be the rightful khalif/Imam after Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Prophet Muhammad during his life time announced this in various ways. The two incidents Dawaat-az-zul-aseera, and Ghadeer al Qumm are the best examples of this. Besides these two Hadith, (Dawaat-az-zul-aseera, and Ghadeer al Qumm) there are many more.
یا حسین Shi'e Muslim
2008-09-05 16:28:52 UTC
Bismillah Ir Rahman Ir Raheem

As-Salaamu Alaikum Waramatullah Wabarakatuh..

How powerful can propaganda be in this age? Flooded by publication in so many language, the Shi'a, for so many years, continously uttered falsehood as truth. For those who are ignorant of the Shi'a Beliefs, as every Muslim's duty, Sipah-e-Sahaba-USA intend to enlighten our brothers and sisters especially the REVERT MUSLIMS trying to understand the difference between being a Muslim and being a Shi'a.



Shi'a Beliefs according to their own BOOKS.

Belief of the Immamat. The standard of Immamat is higher than the Prophethood. ( Hayatul Qaloob Vol. 3 pg. 10)

Angels bring WEHI to the Immamas:every Friday, they go to MIRAJ ( Asool-e-Kaafi pg. 135, 155)

Every year the BOOK reveals on the Immam of the Time of the night of the Qadr ( Comt. Asool-e- Kaafi Vol. 2 pg.229)

Their Immams got higher status, that can't be achieved by the Angels nor the Prophet. ( Khomeini . Hakoomatil Islamia pg.52)

Alteration in the Qur'an. A big part of the Qur'an is missing (Sani Comt. Asool-e-Kaafi Vol. 6 pg. 75)

Like the Torah and the Bible, they claim that the Qur'an is also corrupted and there were changes made in it. (Fazal-ul-Katab pg.70 )

Shi'a beliefs of 17,000 ayats (verses) in Qur'an ( Asool-e-Kaafi pg 671)

Hazrat Abu Bakr and Hazrat Umer were never became true Muslims according to the Shi'a. ( Jal'l Ayuoon pg. 45 )

After the Prophet ( Sallalahu Alayhis Wasallam) passed away, all the Sahabas left Islam except for three. ( Qur'an Kaafi Vol. 3 pg. 115 )

Mutt'a ( temporary marriage) In the name of Mutt'a, Shi'a faith allows its followers to commit adultery. They allow man and woman to have sexual relations without having the NIKKAH. Mutt'a is a temporary Nikkah whereby you do not need witnesses. If the man and woman agreed, they can do Mutt'a. Mutt'a could be performed for ONE hour, ONE day, ONE month or whatever time limit was agreed upon by the two consenting parties. Mutt'a could be done with any women even professional prostitutes. (Froaiy Kaafi Vol.2 pg.189) Mutt'a is higher than SALAT, FASTING, and HAJJ. When after performing Mutt'a , man and woman take Ghussul ( bath) , Allah(swt) forgive their sins in the amount of the hair in their bodies those became wet during the Ghussal ( Minal Yahderul Faqih pg. 431)

TAQIYYAH (lying) is an act of IBADAH ( worship ) in SHI'ASM. One who hides the faith (Shi'a), will be disgraced by Allah(swt). (Asool-e-Kaafi pg. 485) Taqiyyah is wajib(mandatory) . One who does not do Taqiyyah has no iman (faith) (Asool-e-Kaafi pg484) Who can say these above mentioned aquaid (beliefs) to be Islamic? This is nothing but KUFR... Do not be mislead ! To the Muslim Ummah , SIPAH-e-SAHABA-USA, Inc. ( guardians of the SAHABA) urge all Believing Muslims to participate in this GREAT JIHAD, that Shi'a are not MUSLIMS...

Reply to the above accusations.

In the name of Allah, Most Beneficient, Most Merciful,

Was Salamu Ala ManiTtabaa'l Huda

A write up by K. Zafar of Sipahe Sahaba (U.S.A.) entitled 'Are Shia Muslims?' has found its place in the internet, loaded with the time worn objections and arguments against the Shia sect of Islam. These have been adequately and amply answered time and again by the Shia scholars, but the zeal of Sipahe Sahaba to create dissention and disunity among the Ummah of Islam remains unabated.



Two cardinal points have to be clarified before we proceed with answering the objections raised by the writer:



It must be borne in mind that according to Shia belief, every book authored by a human mortal can be subject to error, and, therefore, unlike the Sunni brothers, they do not consider their books of Ahadith as 'SAHIH' or fully authentic and sound. While the Sunni school has 6 books labelled as 'SIHAH', eg SAHIH OF BUKHARI and MUSLIM etc., the Shias believe that the only book which can be classified as pristine and unsullied is the Book of Allah, the Holy Qur'an.

The quotations given by K Zafar are wholly inadequate. She does not quote from Usool al Kafi by giving Chapter and Hadith numbers, and contents herself by giving page numbers. As there are various editions of Usool al Kafi and the other books quoted by her, it is indeed difficult to verify their accuracy.

K Zafar says:

(1) "Belief of the Imamat. The standard of Imamat is higher than the Prophethood".

It is impossible to find anything objectionable in this belief, because it is based on the Holy Qur'an, see verse 124 of Sura Al Baqarah: "And when Ibrahim was tried by his Lord with certain Words, and he fulfilled them, He (Allah) said: Surely I will make you an Imam to the people,..."

This verse clearly states that the elevation of status to Ibrahim, peace be upon him, came in the form of a WAHY (a revelation). This means that he was being promoted from Nubuwwah to Imamah.

(2) "Angels bring WEHI (sic) to the Imams: every Friday they go to MIRAJ(sic)".

The writer may like to consider the following verses from the Holy Qur'an:

"And your Lord sent WAHY to the bee to build its cells in hills...." (al Nahl, verse 68)

"So We sent WAHY to the mother of Musa that suckle him...." (al Shua'raa, verse 7)

"And we made them Imams, guiding men by Our command and We sent WAHY to them to do good deeds..." (al Anbiya', verse 73).

From the verses quoted above, it is evident that WAHY is used by the Holy Qur'an to mean inspirations, intuitive knowledge, apart from the WAHY in the form of a revelation to the Prophets. WAHY to Imams came as the inspirations as vouched by the Holy Qur'an. That is the meaning of revelation on the night of Qadr, coming to the righteous Imams.



(3,4) "Their Imams got higher status, that can't be achieved by the Angels nor the Prophet"

This objection is very surprising. For both Sunni and Shia schools agree that not only the Imams, but also an ordinary MU'MIN, following the Shariah of Islam can achieve higher status than the angels. Angels do not have emotions, passions and desires. Humans have to combat all the evils to achieve purity. Therefore, when he frees himself from base desires and obeys his Master, he has a higher place.

As for our Prophet, peace be upon him and his proginy, no Shia scholar has ever claimed a higher status for any Imam.



(5,6,7) These deal with quotations from Shia sources saying that the Holy Qur'an has had omissions or changes.

At the very outset, I made it clear that such reports are not accepted as sound. We, Shias, unlike our Sunni brothers do not accord the status of 'SAHIH' to any book other than the Holy Qur'an. Every report is subjected to a meticulous study, based on the laid down standards of RIJAAL and SANAD. Time and again we have reiterated that the Holy Qur'an as it exists is the WHOLE book, having no interpolations at all.

It might interest K Zafar and other partisans of Siph-e-Sahaba to consider the following reports from SAHIH books of Sunni school:



(i)"Reported from Caliph Umar(Rad.) who said from the pulpit: Surely Allah sent Muhammad, peace be upon him, with Truth, and sent down to him the Book, and among the things revealed therein was the verse of RAJM. We read it, understood it and assimilated it. (That is, the verse about stoning the adulterer: tr.) The Prophet stoned the adulterer and we did the same after his passing away. So, I fear that with the passage of time, someone may say that we do not find this verse in the Book of Allah, and thus go astray by not practising that which has been ordained. The mention of RAJM in the Book of Allah is truth for the one who commits adultery." (Al Bukhari,Vol4/120. The chapter of Rajmul HUbla min al Zina. Kitabul Hudood).



According to this report appearing from Al Bukhari, which is SAHIH according to SUNNI school, a verse from the Holy Qur'an is missing.



In the SAHIH of Ibn MAJAH, Ayesha, the wife of our Prophet, peace be upon him and his progeny, is reported as under:



"The verse of RAJM and about suckling a child at least 10 times, had indeed been revealed and they were written on a page which was under my bed, but when the Prophet died, while we were occupied with the tragedy, a domestic animal entered and ate the page up." (SUNAN ibn MAJAH: Hadith no 1944 and 2553).



Hadhrat Ayesha tells us of the irretrievable loss of a verse from the Holy Qur'an.



In spite of the above reports from their own sources, which they consider as 'SAHIH', K Zafar and her likes have the audacity of throwing stones while living in glass houses. We, the Shias, believe that these reports appearing in Al Bukhari and Ibn MAJAH are false, and neither SUNNI nor SHIA believe in any change having occured in the Holy Book.



(8,9) About the SAHABA being true Muslims.

We Shia believe that Hazrat Abu Bakr and Hazrat Umar were MUSLIMS. And the SAHABA who survived the Prophet, peace be upon him and his progeny, were MUSLIMS. The qualifying term "true" is judged by the actions of an individual.

10. K. Zafar's hue and cry against MUTA'H is very amusing. This practice of MUTA'H was ordained by the HOLY Quran is its verse:

" And for the pleasure you derive from them, give them their dowers, as prescribed...... "(al Nisa, V 24)



In order to understand the verse from SUNNI sources, refer to Tafseer of al-Tabari elucidating the verse from a report by Habib b. Ali Thabit. Also see al Bayhaqi in his SUNAH 7/205, Sharah of SAHIH MUSLIM by al-Nawawi 9/179, al-Kasshaf by Zama Khshari 1/519, Tafseer of Ibn Katheer 1/474, and also al-Durr al Manthoor of Suyuti 2/140-141.



Now, in order to explain to K. Zafar what MUTA'H actually means in the FIQH of ISLAM, I quote herebelow from
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sunni- Islam following sunnah of the prophet following Islam(quran+sunnah)



Shia - Deviant sect rejected to follow sunnah of the prophet changed Islam following their 12 man made Imams.







IMPORTANT : Here Are Some Deviant Sects



These Sects Have Deviated From Pure Islaam The True Quraan And Sunnah The Real Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'ah



The Raafidah: They are the ones who go to the extremes with regard to the members of the household (Ahulul Bait). They declare the Companions that opposed them as being disbelievers or they accuse them of evil (Fisq). They divided into many sects, among which are extremists, who claim that Alee is god, and among which are other than them. Their innovation first appeared during the Khilaafah of Alee Ibn Abee Taalib when Abdullaah Ibn Saba' Said to him:" You are God." Due to this 'Alee commanded that they be set on fire. However, their leader, 'Abdullah Ibn Saba', escaped to another city.



They hold Various views on the Attributes of Allaah, so among them are those that perform tashbeeh, those who perform ta'teel and those who are in comformity (the the correct view on the Attributes of Allaah). They are called Raafidah because they rejected (rafd) Zayd Ibn 'Alee Ibn Al- Husayn Ibn 'Alee Ibn Abee Taalib, when they asked him about Abu Bakr and 'Umar (Radiya Allahu 'An Huma) and he responded saying "Rahimahullah" for both of them.













The Creed of Shi'a from Their Own Sources



Allah

1.) He has the Quality of 'Badaa'.

2.) This means he forgets.

3.) He makes mistakes.

4.) He plans but this does not take effect.

5.) He does not know who to appoint as the next message conveyor, the next Imaam.

6.) "We (shias) do not worship such a god who gives authority to rascals like Yazid, Mu'awiyyah and Uthmaan."

7.) They say "Ali says.....I am the first and I am the last. I am the manifest and I am the hidden and I am the heir of earth."

8.) Shias say that the Imaams are the face of Allaah,

9.) The eyes of Allaah among his creation.

10.) The tongue of Allaah among his creation.



References :

(1.) Usul Kafi- Babul bad'aa - Al- Kafi Vol- 1 -P283 India Ed. ( 2.) Ibid (3.) Ibid .(4.) Ibid. (5.) Ibid. (6.) Kashful Asraar - 107 - Khomeni.. (7.) Rijaal Kashsi . 138. India Print. (8.) Usul- e-Kaafi -83. (9.) Ibid. 10.) Ibid.



New Kalimah (testimony of faith)

1.) Laa ilaaha illaahu Muhammadur Rasulullaah -Alli waliyullah, Khomeni Hujjatulillaah

2.) Laa Illaaha Muhammdur - Rasulullah, Ali waliyullah wazi Rasulullah was Khalifauhu bila Faslein"

3.) - Shia 'Islaam' based on 5 pillars - Salaat, Zakaat, Fasting, Hajj, Wilaayat.

4.) - Azaan is "Ash Hadu Anna - alian Waliullah Wasu Rasulullah was Khalifatu hu bila faslrin"



References:

(1.) Wahdat Islaami - June 84 P1- monthly Iranian Goverment. Periodical. (2.) Ali Waliullah - Abdul Kareem Mushtaq. (3.) Usul- Kafi. 4.) Listen in Arafaat.



Imaamology

1.) They believe in 12 Imaams after Rasulullaah .

2.) First being Ali (R.A).

3.) Last being the 12th Imaam

4.) Who is in a Cave 'Surra - Man- Raa'.

5.) Imaams they believe are Masoom- innocent.

6.) They can make Halaal- Haraam and Haraam - Halaal .

7.) They can change Deen- Sharia.

8.) They are born of their mothers thighs.

9.) They have the knowledge of the Unseen.

10.) They say Imaams are higher in status than the Ambiyaa including our Nabi.

11.) No concession regarding Wilaayah- (absolute necessary belief).

12.) If one does not accept Imaams then one is a Kaafir.



References:

(1.) Usul -e - Kafi. (2.) Usul -e - Kafi. (3.) Usul -e - Kafi. (4.) Usul -e - Kafi. (5.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225 / Kafi - Kitaabul Hujjuah. (6.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225. (7.) Ibid. (8.) Ibid /Haqqul Yaqeen P126.(9.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225. (10.) Ibid / Al Hukumatul - Islaamiyaa - 52 Khomeni. Hayaatul Qutoob Vol 3, P10 /Ibid Vol 2. P787. Footnote. (11.) Usul -e- Kafi Vol 2. P278. (12.) Usul -e- Kafi Vol 1. P225.



The 12th Imaam

1.) When he comes he will bring the original Quraan.

2.) He is in hiding, in a cave.

3.) He is alive observing the world, in totallity.

4.) When he comes, he will be naked. Rasulullaah will swear Allegiance to him. (Allaah protect us).

5.) He will first dig the grave of Abu Bakr (R.A) and Umar (R.A),then hang them on a stake - for all sins of mankind.

6.) He will remove the body of Ayesha (R.A) and implement the same punished for Zina.

7.) He will then kill the Sunni Scholars.

8.) Punish the Muslim Ummuah.

9.) First kill Ahle - Sunnah, then Ulama, then Kuffar.



References:

(1.) Usul-e- Kafi. (2.) Islaamic Goverment P42/ Usul -e- Kafi P340. (3.) Hukumatal Islaamia -P52. (4.) Haqqul Yaqeen 2/227- 2/347. (5.) Haqqul Yaqeen P 361/2. (6.) Also Vol 2 P 611/ Haqqul Yaqeen - P 347/ Mullah Baqir Majlisi. (7.) Furoo Kafi - Kitaabul Raudah - P 527 also Tafseer Majmanul Bayan/ Hayaatul Qulub Vol2 P 611. (8.) Hayaatul Qulub Vol2 P 611.( 9.) Haqqul Yaqeen- Vol 2. P 527 ASlo Maj Manul Bayaan.



Qur'aan

1.) Not Completed.

2.) Has



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Taqiyyah (essentially means to lie to hide the truth)

1.) The believe in Taqiyya.

2.) This means 'Holy Deception'.

3.) To believe in something but express/ say something else.

4.) They say 9-10th of Deen is Taqiyya.

5.) They say, he who has no Taqiyya has no deen.

6.) There is a great reward in Lying.

7.) They say the great Imams Practised 'Taqiyya'.

8.) They say Alli (R.A), Hassan (R.A), Hussain(R.A) practiced 'Taqiyya'.

9.) They say Hussein (R.A) practiced 'Taqiyya'.

10.) Perorm Jamaah salaat with Sunni's.

11.) Visit their sick .

12.) Perform their Janazah Salaat.



References:

(1.) Usul -e- Kafi. (2.) Ibid. (3.) Ibid. (4.) Ibid. (5.) Ibid. (6.) Ibid. (7.) Islaamic Goverment P35/ 133 .(8.) Ibid. (9.) Ibid. (10.) Usul -e- Kafi. (11.) Ibid.(12.) Ibid.



Sahaabah (companions)

1.) They say all Sahabah (R.A) companions except 3 left Islaam after demise of Nabi .

2.) They say Abu Bakr(R.A) Umar(R.A) and Uthmaan (R.A) robbed Ali(R.A) of his position of being Khalif.

3.) They say Umar(R.A) was a 'Original Kaafir' and 'Zindiq'-renegrade.

4.) "Abu Huraira (R.A) was one of the fuquaha, but god knows what judement he falsified for Muaw'iyya and others like him, and what damage He inflicted upon Islaam."

5.) They say Abu Huraira (R.A) used to fabricate Ahadith.

6.) They say Muawiyya (R.A) poisoined Hassan(R.A).

7.) They say Muawiya (R.A) was a tyrant opressive ruler.

8.) They say Qazi Shurray (R.A) used to issue judicial pronouncement in favour of the ruling party. He was a sinful wretch occupying position of Judge.

9.) One should dissociate with the 4 idols: Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthmaan, Muawiyya and 4 women Ayesha, Hafsa, Harid, Umm-al-Hakam.

10.)One should curse the above after each prayer.

11.) Pharoah and Hamaan refer here to Abu Bakr and Umar.



References:

(1.) Anwaar - No'maan Niyyah - P245. Vol 2. Nimatullah Jafaari./ Furu Kafi, Kitaabul Raudah :15 - Mullah Muhammad bin Yaqoob Kulaini Vol 3 P115/ Usul -e-Kafi Vol 2, P 246 Rijaal Kashsi P504. (2.) Al- Ihtijaaj - Tibrasi 83, 84./Haqqul Yaqeen, P 157. (3.) Haqqul Yaqeen , 551/Kashful Asraar P119. (4.) P 143 - Islam goverment. (5.) Islaamic Goverment (6.) Al-Anwaar un Nomaniyyah - Vol 2. P88-87 Jazaari.(7.) Ibid. (8.) P81, Isl/ gov. (9.) Haqqul Yaqeen- Vol. 2 P519/ Furru Kaafi P342 Vol 3/ Jilaa - ul- Uyoom -P45 - 46/ Hayaatul Quluub P 375. (10.) Ainul Hayaa P559. (11.) Haqqul Yaqeen P342.



Sahaabah

12.) Faathima should complain about Ali's big stomach, no wealth and bad features.

13.) Abu Bakr and Umar are Kaafirs

14.) Abu Bakr is calf on Bani Israel.

15.) Ali is a mosquito and a fly.

16.) What did the Zuleikha of Makkah, Bibi Ayesha have, that the 50 year old Nabi got moved to her.

17.) Nabi accepted (in marriage) an uncouth person such as Hafsa. Not withsatanding the fact that she was a widow and facially deformed.

18.) Imaan refers to Ameerul- Mu'mineen- Alli Kufr refers to Abu Bakr fisq(weakness) refers To Umar isyaan(disobedient) Uthmaan in Surah Hujuraat.

19.) Umar is an illegeitimate child.

20.) Abu Bakr and Umar are worse than Shaithaan and they are dwellers of Jahannam.

21.) "When I entre Makkah and Madinah as the conqueror, my first duty will be to go to the grave of Huzoor and exhume the bodies of the two idols."

22.)"We shia's know the three Sahabah's(Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthmaan) as being void of Imaan"



References:

(12.) Mullah Baqir - Jilal Uyoon- 58 Chapter on Faathima.(13.) Haqqul Yaqeen - P552. (14.) Haqqul Yaqeen - Tafseer Qummi P160. (15.) Tafseer Qummi P29. (16.) Haqeeat Fiqh Hanafi P64 /Ghulaam Hussain Naqui.(17.) Ibid P124.(18.) Usul-e- Kafi P229. Vol 2.(19.) Tazkiratul Aimma - P103-4.(20.) Haqqul Yaqeen - P509 - 510.(21.) Kitaab be Noujawanaan - P8.( 22.) Tajalliyaar-e-Sadaqaat - P201- Muhammed Hussain Dhelvi.



Mut'a (temporary marriage, legalised prostitution)



1.) "It is disliked but permissable to have Mutah with a prostitute, especially( it will be more enjoyable) if she is famous for her prostitution."

2.)One time 'Muta' reward is Jannat.

3.)When the couple sit in Solitude, angels protect them.

4.)Their Speech is Tasbeeh .

5.)When they touch hands, sins fall from their fingers.

6.)When they Kiss, reward of Hajj and Umrah for both.

7.)On bathing - every drop from each hair brings reward of 10 Thawabs, 10 sins drop, stages raised by 10 fold.

8.)From every drop of water, angels created to make Tasbeeh till Qiyaamat.

9.)'Muta' with believing women is like 70 times journey to Ka'aba.

10.) Contractors of 'Muta' will cross the 'Pul Siraat' like a flash of lightning.

11.) After making muta Once - The stage of Hussain is reached. After making muta twice - The stage of Hasan is reac


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