Question:
Alleged mysterious letters Alif Lam Mim translates as PAIN, anyone care to explain?
2009-07-07 17:57:42 UTC
Surah 2 starts with Alif Lam Mim, supposedly not a word, but mysterious letters that no one knows what they mean.

How come then when I copied the Arabic script and pasted it into translator, the word "pain" came back in English?

http://imtranslator.net/partners.asp
http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/
Nine answers:
✿Umm Zekiya✿
2009-07-07 18:12:22 UTC
ALLAH ALONE KNOWS...NOT GOOGLE!!!



ARE YOU MUSLIM? SERIOUSLY?



And who the hell are you? We're supposed to follow your "teachings" because you somehow know better than the Prophet (saw) and the scholars? Astaghfirullah! Just because you put letters into a translator doesn't mean that YOU know what Alif Lam Mim means. Do you think you're a prophet or something? You really think that Arabic speaking people couldn't try and translate this?? MUSLIMS KNOW THIS IS WITH ALLAH!



Your ignorance and others' ignorance of their own deen is the reason for non-Muslims thinking this way. So why don't you go and learn your deen brother? Why don't you go and tell all the scholars of Islam that YOU have discovered the truth and the meaning behind these letters!!!



Where's your throne man?? Astaghfirullah.
2016-04-05 01:38:34 UTC
It's never a sin to wonder about the reasons why. The prophet himself (pbuh) said in a hadith that 5 minutes of proper thinking are worth more than 20 years of following a religious leader blindly. I don't think that anyone knows what "Alif Lam Mim" means. There are several theories, but I suppose only the Almighty knows for sure.
Chalky
2009-07-07 18:16:05 UTC
Meh, I always wondered why a God that says the Quran is clear to understand as per:



(41:3) A Book, the signs which have been explained in detail as a Qur'an in Arabic for people of knowledge to be a herald of glad tidings as well as a warning. (Yusuf Ali)



So the whole thing about Alif Lam Meem being only with God doesn't make sense to me, but I would warn you against trying to copy paste a classical text into a translator. It would be like trying to translate Shakespearean english into modern day Arabic. A lot is lost in translation, so again I think it is up to you to interpret it, not a "machine."
umm_mishal
2009-07-07 18:58:19 UTC
Alif Lam Mim.... that meaning only Allah alone knows
Sonja von Kaiser
2009-07-07 18:04:56 UTC
Alif Lam Mim means nothing. Knowledge of these words are with Allah alone



Arabic and hebrew have root words. eg:



Ḥaa-Raa-Meem or H -R -M



Mahram — "forbidden" — "not need to

Ihram — Hajj cloth, and the state of ritual consecration

Harem — "forbidden place" — woman part of house, forbidden for non-Mahram men

Halal and Haraam foods

Ḥarām — ritually impure

Ḥaram — sanctuary

Herem (Hebrew) — - Excommunication,

Hahrama (Hebrew) — - Confiscation (civil law)



Similarly this could be a root word for something more.







This is What Rashad Khalifah says.



*[2:1and 3:1] These initials remained a divinely guarded secret for 1400 years. Now we recognize them as a major component of the Quran's mathematical miracle (see Appendices 1, 2, 24, and 26). The meaning of A.L.M. is pointed out in Verse 2: "This scripture is infallible." This is incontrovertibly proven by the fact that the frequencies of

occurrence of these three initials in this sura are 4502, 3202, and 2195, respectively. The sum of these numbers is 9899, or 19x521. Thus, these most frequent letters of the Arabic language are mathematically placed according to a superhuman pattern. These same initials also prefix Suras 3, 29, 30, 31, and 32, and their frequencies of occurrence add up to multiples of 19 in each one of these suras.
TamBam
2009-07-07 18:04:35 UTC
I would only assume that those who have studied Qur'anic arabic (fus'ha) would know better than Google Translator.



Alif Lam Mim does not = pain

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Alif Lam Mim is not one united word Alhamdulillah it is seperated for a reason.

Why would you read it ALIF LAM MIM only to then unite the letters indiscriminately?
لا فتى إلا علي
2009-07-07 18:09:58 UTC
only Allah and his chosen people would know what this means..if you join alif lam meem, u will get alam: means pain in arabic, but sadly it isnt that simple, coz it was meant to be read as 3 letters not one word...
2009-07-07 18:16:38 UTC
Pain?
2009-07-07 18:07:29 UTC
I think your going at this the wrong way


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