Question:
Does islamic extremism have anything to do with young men being expected to remain celebate until marriage?
Alex
2009-09-13 05:51:35 UTC
I have a muslim friend who is in his late 20's but has never had a girlfriend, because it's not the way he's been brought up. He has to wait until his mother has chosen the girl he's going to marry before he has any kind of intimate relationship with a girl.

Recently he is getting more and more into religion.

These are the two facts that made me wonder about the question above. Given that Islam places a lot of emphasis on the sexual needs of men (ie women need to cover up because uncovered hair inflames mens' sexual desires, women have to allow men their conjugal rights), is it expecting too much of young men to remain celebate and unable to release all the sexual energy God has created inside them through the usual course of sexual relations with women? And is the violence and anger towards non-muslims that we see from some young muslim men the inevitable outcome of being unable to release the pent-up sexual energy with women?
Seventeen answers:
2009-09-13 09:32:36 UTC
Oh, it's worse than that. . . . They also require their men to undergo circumcision when they're 13 years old. So the very time when a boy is needing - ah - "manual relief" due to his raging hormones, he can't touch the damn thing because he's in too much pain.



A whole population subjected to mass psychosis in one easy swoop.
Jake
2009-09-13 06:11:38 UTC
I ponder the same thing... Its actually... I think men are supposed to get married early, perhaps the by the age of 22/23 latest in Islam(hopefully someone can clarify better). I don't think we guys are supposed to wait till our late 20s or early 30s to get married. That is why those that don't wait, end up finding sexual release with women before marriage. I think the whole "mom will find me a wife when I am completely settled and old" is a cultural thing. The age of puberty is 14-16. Thus the sexual desire has set in, and to avoid sin and extra marital affairs, one waits it out till 18-23 and just gets married, thus avoiding sin. Most guys though are influenced by the culture and have to wait till 27-30.



So I would imagine those that don't have extra marital affairs and wait till their late 20s have it extra hard. What I am trying to say is by 24+ a guy needs sex, and it is best to get married, but the whole cultural things stops them and boom, you got muslim guys with girlfriends.



Yes muslim men should remain celebete till marriage, but parents don't understand that sex is integral and holding it in just causes issues and frustrations, ESPECIALLY in a time when having a girlfriend is something everyone around you doing...



Everyone around me has experienced sex (21-24 year old). They either have girlsfriends or are married.



Just to add, this has nothing to do with anger or hatred towards otther people or extremism, etc.
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2009-09-13 06:09:42 UTC
Maybe. Although this assumption is probably one of many. And I can also tell you that if puberty kicked in at about 13 years of age, and the sex and women were the cause of his being more religious, then it would be possible that he should have become more religious at about 15 or so, maybe.



It an open theory, and theories aren't always right, no matter how much it seems to make sense.



And no, it isn't too much to expect young men to remain celebate. I think it's too much to expect a young man to be surrounded with so much sex talk and not expect him to join it. If he had grown up in a community that never allowed sex before marriage, he would more likely be able to hold it back. Probably.



As for young Muslim men's anger toward non- Muslims because they can't have sex, if that were true, many violent cases should have been rape cases.



Sorry for disagreeing with you so much, it's just trying to show that this kind of relation likely does have a low percentage of being right right now.
2016-04-11 19:16:03 UTC
Whether Egyptian or not, men who are not virgins must not expect women to be virgins when they marry them. In fact, women and girls cannot be expected to remain virgins with these guys out there. When it comes to lowering the gaze and guarding their modesty/chastity/virginity, the Holy Qur'an addresses men first; then women. Why a lot of men conveniently ignore or overlook this is beyond comprehension. They must not lie and say virginity is a female thing. This also applies to them as well. Men cannot think they have free reign to do what they please when they please with any female. If they were, unfortunately, brought up to accept this as Islamic, then they must debunk that sick thinking long before they even think about courtship and marriage.
monkeyman
2009-09-13 05:59:32 UTC
is there an increase in crimes for those that have chosen abstinence as compared to those that have not? i didn't think so.



* * it was a rhetorical question, didn't require answering. apparently you fail to realize that the majority of crimes and law breaking occur by those that are not abstinent. you also will have skewed results depending on where you are talking about. the violence and anger you refer to, is it in the US? which would not be as great as if you were referring to Middle Eastern Countries. The environment one is brought up in always will be a contributing factor. The values in an upbringing will be reflected in the actions and decisions a person makes. So these people that act in violence and anger likely have never had consequences for their actions. They were taught to be this way. They were taught these actions were acceptable behaviors. This has nothing to do with unable to release pent-up sexual energy... if that were the case, then no one has really taught them how to masturbate did they?



Quit stereotyping and labeling a group of people based on the actions of a few extremist. Thats like saying every white man in the south is racist because they live in the south, and the white people in the past had slaves, so these people are all racist.



Get a Clue
2009-09-13 08:05:52 UTC
Millions of Hindu males and females remain celibate till marriage. They just do not make a huge big show of it.

What you see in Bolywood is not Indian culture. The vast majority look upon it as just entertainment.

Not denaying that many do get over awed by glamour these days but that is universal.

When I say Many, that is in terms of a tiny percentage of a billon people that seems many.
2009-09-13 09:04:17 UTC
Both men and women are required to be virgins until their wedding night. Hence the reason there is no free mixing between the sexes upon puberty and hence the reason dating is haraam and why pre marital sex is punishable by 100 lashes. It is not extremism. I'm not an extremist just because I chose to keep my chastity and purity for my husband.
2009-09-13 06:08:30 UTC
There's nothing wrong with someone becoming more religious. When you call him an extremist, what do you exactly mean?



No, extremist behaviour occurs when people are taught false information and think that such behaviour is ok in Islam, not due to these sexual urges.



The Quran advises that if people are unable to handle their sexual urges then they should get married.
majeed3245
2009-09-13 06:51:09 UTC
Your question full of ignorance sickens me. You seem to think humans are supposed to live like animal without any self control.



Not only extremist but every (male and female )Muslim is supposed to practice self control and not act like animals until he/she is married.



He doesn't sleep with you before and neither he is willing to marry you, so you blame his religion how shameless of you? It is not totally your fault because your entire society lives like animals and have pre-marital sex with any one they can find starting from age 12 and 13 and parents give them condoms to enjoy sex. Their only concern is that girls do not get pregnant.



I don't care to say any more to you except

praying to Allah to guide you and us to the right path of life and save us from the sinful life that leads to our punishment in hell fire in our next life. Offcourse you will not understand what happens in next life if no one taught you that our life on earth is for test of Allah for all our souls and we all humans will face consequences for our acts in this life on the day of Judgment when we shall be resurrected and presented to God for accountability and judgment against or in favour of us.



Fearing Allah and the judgment day in Hereafter lots of Muslims live their lives observing self control and staying away from committing sins of illegal sexual activities in this life before marriage.
stardust.
2009-09-13 06:15:56 UTC
Well why don't women who remain celibate get accused of the same? They to in Islam wait .



Maybe because then we would have NUNS running out on killing sprees as well ? Your question is stupid and ignorant to put it mildly.
2009-09-13 08:03:47 UTC
THERE IS NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE IN ISLAM!



It is a HUGE sin!



ALL Muslims should remain celibate till marriage!
Grillparzer
2009-09-13 06:04:58 UTC
I can't find the reference, but it has been suggested that it contributes to the willingness of young extremists to commit suicide. Forced celibacy combined with political/religious indoctrination and offers from outsiders to support their families after their deaths have probably inspired more then a few suicide bombers.
Green evolution
2009-09-13 06:20:46 UTC
I live in an islamic country....although inf act its not islamic and only its face is ''islamic republic [waf]of iran ''

here i can say 78% of boys and girls have bf and gf....its alittle limited in comparison to western countries but it exists....they go out together,spend time and things other bf/gfs do !



Sexual relationship here is really limited for those who are single cause they say according to islam sexual relationship should be done only in a relationship as husband/wife.

but nobody pays attention :D they go on in their own way ....
She said
2009-09-13 05:55:23 UTC
Not a darn thing....



All Muslim men and women remain celibate till married. It has zero to do with ''extremism''.

Its not just about the way he was brought up that is the Islamic way for all Muslims.

Its not expecting anything too much. If its too much for them then they simply marry problem solved.

Men and women dress modestly in Islam, women have desires too.

I dont know any Muslim male or female who have ''violence and anger towards non Muslims'' rather a condescending comment dont you think?

Your assumption that we have anger towards non Muslims is childish to say the least.







EDIT

A minority of individuals do not speak or act collectivly for a whole faith.

Do the IRA speak for all Catholics? NO

Tim McVay for all Christians? NO

Do you think every violent action by a Christian, Catholic, Hindu. Atheist, Buhhist, Sikh, Jew etc etc etc means every other Christian, Catholic, Hindu. Atheist, Buhhist, Sikh, Jew is responsible for the acts of someone just because they are of the same faith?



No one ever said that there are not Muslims who have committed crimes but your statment about young muslim men having anger towards non Muslim because of being chaste is condesending and ignorant.
Belfast Girl
2009-09-13 06:13:31 UTC
Not been able to get intimate with a female, or if you are a homosexual muslim boy not having a boy friend becomes so frustrating that they take up jihad
2009-09-13 05:59:39 UTC
sigh

another boring question





lets talk about iraq :D
br0k3ns0u1
2009-09-13 05:56:29 UTC
Oh so thats why they're so angry then!!


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