Question:
Ramadan: Did Bibi Fatima (as) invoke curse of Allah on Abubaker and Umer?
MOMIN
2009-09-30 07:03:58 UTC
Then Hadhrath Umar accompanied by a group, arrived at the house of Fatima and began to bang on the door. When Fatima heard their voices she proclaimed loudly:

'O people, after Rasulullah (s), the son of Khattab..'

When the people heard Fatima's voice and her anguish they left in grief weeping, fearing that their hearts would be torn apart� Only Umar and some others remained, the rest returned to their homes. They removed 'Ali from his home by force and brought him before Abu Bakr, and said 'Give him bayya'. Umar said:

'By Allah, who alone is worthy of worship, I shall otherwise strike off your neck'.

'Ali replied:

'Would you kill a Slave of Allah (swt) and the brother of the Prophet?'

Umar replied 'I accept that to you are a Slave of Allah, but not that you are the brother of the Prophet (ie he accuses Ali (as) of lying)'.

Abu Bakr remained silent, and Umar said:

'Why are you not demanding the bayya from him?'

Abu Bakr replied 'As long as Fatima is by his side, I shall not pressure him'.

Then 'Ali went to the grave of Rasulullah, embraced it crying aloud 'Your Ummah now considers me to be weak and they wish to murder me'.

Meanwhile Umar said to Abu Bakr 'Accompany me to see Fatima as we have incurred her anger'.

They both wanted to see Fatima and so they approached 'Ali, who took them to see her. He ['Ali] sat them down but Sayyida Fatima turned her face away from them. They both conveyed salaam to Fatima but she did not reply. Hadhrath Abu Bakr then said 'Beloved daughter of Rasulullah (s) I love you more than my own daughters, and I cannot tolerate the fact that I remained alive on the day that your father had died. I know your exalted rank and status, but I did not uphold your claim for possessions as Rasulullah had stated 'Our property will not be inherited, whatever we (i.e. prophets) leave is Sadaqa (to be used for charity)'.

Fatima said 'If I remind the two of you about a hadith that you are aware of, will you then act in accordance with it?'

The two said 'Yes, do tell us'.

She said 'I want you to swear by Allah if you can testify to hearing this hadith:

"Fatima's happiness is my happiness and her anger is my anger. Whoever has maintained friendship with Fatima had maintained friendship with me, whoever upsets her, upsets me".

Both confirmed hearing this hadith from Rasulullah(s). Sayyida Fatima then said:

I testify before Allah (swt) and his Angels that you (Abu Bakr and Umar) have upset me, you did not keep me happy and I shall complain to Rasulullah (s) about this when I see him.

Abu Bakr then said 'I seek protection from Allah's anger and your (the Prophet (saws)'s) anger'. At that moment tears filled Abu Bakr's eyes and Sayyida Fatima said:

'I shall curse you in every prayer.'

Abu Bakr left the house hysterical and screamed at the crowd of people that had gathered outside:

'You people have it (so) easy and go to your beds in peace with your wives at night, whilst you have engulfed me in a terrible crisis (of conscience). I do not need your bayya, revoke the bayya that has been given to me.'

The people said 'Khalifa of Rasulullah (s) the Khilafat cannot work without you at the helm'.

ref from Sunni Books

1. al Imama wa al Siyasa pages 18-30 Dhikr Bayya Abu Bakr
2. Tareekh Abul Fida Volume 1 page 156 Dhikr bayya Abu Bakr; we relied on the Urdu translation by Maulana Kareem'ud Deen al Hanafi pages 177-179;
3. Iqd al Fareed page 179
4. Tareekh al Tabari Volume 13 page 1818 Dhikr Wafaath Nabi, we relied on the English translation Volume 9 page 187
5. al-Istiab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr Volume 1 page 246 Dhikr Abdullah in Abi Quhafa
6. Sharh ibn al Hadeed Volume 1 page 157
7. Al Mihal wa al Nihal Volume 1 page 77, Dhikr Nizameeya
8. Muruj adh-Dhahab by Abd al-Hasan Ali ibn al-Husayn al Masudi Volume 3 page 198
9. Izalath ul Khifa by Al Muhaddith Shah Waliyullah Dehlavi Volume 2 page 226 (Urdu translation, Qur'an Mehal publishers, Karachi)
10. al Bayana Izalathul Khifa Volume 2 page 29
11. Tareekh Kamil by Ibn Atheer Volume 11 page 113
12. Tareekh Ahmadi by Ahmad Husayn Khan Sahib pages 111-112
13. Taufa Ithna Ashari, by al Muhaddith Shah Abdul Aziz Dehlavi page 292 Dhikr Muthain Umar
14. Al Murthada by Hafidh Abdul Rahman al Hanafi page 45 (Amritsar edition)
15. Mukhthasar Kanz al Ummal bur Hushiya Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal Volume 2 page 184 (Egypt).
16. Kitab Mukhthasar fi Ahbar al Bashar Volume 1 page 156
17. Tahqeeq Mubashraab Sunni page 110 bu Maulana Waheedudin Khan al Hanafi
18. Ansar Ashraf, by al-Baladhuri, v1, pp 582-586
19. Tareekh Ya'qubi, v2, p116
20. Fathul Aineen page 88
21. al Faruq Volume 1 page 92 Dhikr Saqeefa Bani Sa'ada
22. Ruh al Mustafai Volume 3 page 36
Five answers:
anonymous
2009-09-30 07:21:42 UTC
momin, this will surely start some arguments later on, as it will be used as an excuse by others. this issue is such a difficult one, being a shia i believe eveything that is said there 100%. but me, you and every other shia here knows knowing is gonna change in regards to what the sunnis think of their caliphs. so there is no point in us being the "fire starters" when its not going to bring out any good.





i hope you can understand what im trying to say. :)
alwang
2016-10-07 09:39:33 UTC
"A Muslim does no longer curse yet another Muslim"-Vegeta properly Prophet Muhammad(s) cursed 2 Muslims in accordance to Sahih Muslim, does this advise that Prophet Muhammad grew to become into no longer a Muslim? Muslim, e book 032, variety 6285: A'isha reported that 2 persons visited Allah's Messenger (might peace be upon him) and the two one in all them talked some element, of which i'm no longer conscious, yet that aggravated him and he invoked curse upon the two one in all them and hurled malediction, and while they went out I reported: Allah's Messenger, the solid might attain everybody in spite of the incontrovertible fact that it does no longer attain those 2. He reported: Why so? I reported: because of the fact you have invoked curse and hurled malediction upon the two one in all them. He reported: do no longer you recognize that I somewhat have made condition with my Lord asserting subsequently: O Allah, i'm a man or woman and that for a Muslim upon whom I invoke curse or hurl malediction make it a source of purity and reward.
Anotherside!!!
2009-09-30 07:14:14 UTC
Its a blame on Fatima(RA).



Prophet(peace be upon him) and his family never cursed their own enemies. They were very polite and loving, even with their enemies.



This was the ikhlaq enemies was impressed and emberaced Islam.

But shias try to give them Bad names.



Edit !



Did Allah reveal Fatima (RA) a wahi to curse them(RA).



MAy be its mention in your quran which is hidden with your 12th Imam, who told shias by sending them letters, emails text messages .



Shias r the biggest misinterpreter of quran, the ayah u mentioned, Its not for cursing caliphs but non muslims.



If the caliphs were so bad then,



WHY DID ALI GIVE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEM.



WHY DID ALI(RA) MARRY HIS DAUGHTER TO OMAR(RA)



And there r many whys,
shababnaqvi
2009-09-30 07:15:34 UTC
my brother you have given the answer yourself and references. i agree with your point that bibi fatima (sa) did curse abu bakr and umar the lanati's. i bet they are burning in hell right now.
Skip Jablonski
2009-09-30 07:08:33 UTC
No, none of that actually happened.


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