Question:
Face off (Jesus the Jewish Messiah “Christ”) NT, Quran?
anonymous
2011-04-01 18:53:51 UTC
Face off (Jesus the Jewish Messiah “Christ”) NT, Quran?

For the sake of argument if I show that Jesus is not the Messiah (Christ) does that mean that Islam and Christianity is man made and not from God?

Quran says that Jesus was the Messiah.

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YUSUFALI: O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.

PICKTHAL: O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.

SHAKIR: O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only a messenger of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His messengers, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one Allah; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.

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YUSUFALI: Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

PICKTHAL: The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away!

SHAKIR: The Messiah, son of Marium is but a messenger; messengers before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.


The New Testament says that Jesus was the Messiah.

Mark 14:61-62 (New King James Version) 61 But He kept silent and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?” 62 Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

John 4:25-26 (New King James Version) 25 The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming” (who is called Christ). “When He comes, He will tell us all things.” 26 Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am He.”

Mark 8:29-30 (New International Version, ©2011) 29 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Peter answered, “You are the Messiah.” 30 Jesus warned them not to tell anyone about him.


For the sake of argument if I show that Jesus is not the Messiah (Christ) does that mean that Islam and Christianity is man made and not from God?
Seven answers:
anonymous
2011-04-01 20:18:58 UTC
Free Speech is right on target.

There is no non religious historical proof that Jesus was crucified however, Christianity on survived because of the strong belief of early Christians that Jesus died and rose from the dead.; without this faith, Christianity would have died with Jesus.

The theory that another man died instead of Jesus is very well known Gnostic writings over 200 years after Jesus died. Very many scholars do not think the Gnostic gospels authentic.
Brother in Humanity
2011-04-02 01:33:44 UTC
For the 'sake of argument', i wish YOU WOULD PUT ALL UR EFFORT INTO ACCEPTING THE CHALLENGE GIVEN OUT IN THE QURAN! k?



IS THERE ANY OTHER BOOK ON EARTH WHICH CHALLENGES ITS READERS TO LOOK FOR MISTAKES IN IT? OR PRODUCE SOMETHING LIKE IT?

NO BROTHER!

WE ARE WAITING!

1400 YEARS IT HAS BEEN!



NOT ONE MAN CAME FORWARD! TO TAKE THAT CHALLENGE! NOT 1!



Who wrote the Quran?

http://www.themodernreligion.com/basic/quran/quran_who_wrote.htm



Who wrote the Bible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFUKxJ4jkSc



what is The challange of the Quran?

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Miracle



Is the Quran an Inimitable book?

http://www.theinimitablequran.com/



Gary Miller - the man who challenged the Quran

http://islam.thetruecall.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=215



The Authenticity and preservation of the Holy Quran

http://www.islamreligion.com/category/37/



Quran OR Bible : which is the word of God? aka "corruption in the bible or Quran?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVZ7MLQorwA



Is 75% of the Qu'ran a Copy of the Bible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9MBJQF23p4
anonymous
2011-04-01 19:13:49 UTC
If you as an Individuel can prove that Jesus is not the Messiah it will be your word against billions of others. Who appointed you religious dictator?

I suggest that you stick to your atheist beliefs and leave Christians and Muslims to cling to their faith.
anonymous
2016-04-30 12:03:20 UTC
Who gives a steaming pile of crap? I mean, really? You have friends that care about this nonsense? Then go bug them with it and leave people alone.
Iamicecreamman
2011-04-01 18:56:36 UTC
Well yeah i guess if you showed he isnt the messiah you would prove its manmade... but good luck doing that.
anonymous
2011-04-01 20:03:14 UTC
Jesus (as) was telling that Messiah will come later. He was right. IT PROVES THAT ISLAM IS RIGHT. JESUS (AS) IS RIGHT.





QURAN 2:136] Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
Mammamia3
2011-04-01 18:56:39 UTC
we will never know


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