Question:
How can you be sure that Allah exists?
Astri K
2008-06-28 05:47:49 UTC
hi, I'm a muslim. no worries! I am 100% sure that Allah exists. It's just that these days, I'm trying to get closer to Allah. I'm not sure if this happened to you guys before, but sometimes I wonder to myself, who actually is Allah? How close is Allah to us? How can we believe that Allah really exists? I know I'm not supposed to have these questions in my mind, but... I don't know, they just happen to stay in my mind and won't go until I find the answer that can at least make peace in my heart and believe in Allah everytime. My question is, how can I believe in Allah? Allah said that Allah is close to us, but how can I feel that? How can I feel that Allah is close to me? How can I feel the love Allah gives to me? How can I believe that Allah is really here? I'm sorry for all these questions, but maybe before I even get to be close to Allah, I need to pass all these things and I really need someone's help to get through all this... Masya Allah, everything is so confusing! Syukran...
22 answers:
AHMAD FUAD Harun
2008-06-30 17:35:30 UTC
Dear,



Assalamu'alaikum Warahmatullahhi Wabarakatuh.



In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.



NOTHING EXIST WITHOUT "CREATOR"



Never confused. Recite "Astaqfirrullahhil'azeem' a lot. The RAY of Islam will comes to you. The "FAITH" is Islam. Islam means Submitting One Self to Al-Mighty God Allah Subhanahu Wata'ala is the "FAITH" of which Prophet Muhammad is the Prophet of Al-Mighty God Allah Subhanahu Wata'ala.



Thanks Al-Mighty God Allah Subhanahu Wata'ala that you're a Muslim. It's only you're confuse the presence of Al-Mighty God Allah Subhanahu Wata'ala the creator and the governor of the universe. Created Jinns and Mankind to worship HIM. Make mankind as agent on earth. Perfected Islam is the FAITH. The most complete religion of the world.



OK.

1. Look at the Galaxy. There's lots of Stars. You make one star and hang it at the Galaxy. Then, think who made the Stars. Who hang the Star. No pillar and what soever. The Stars hang with no hocks and no pillars.



2. Says another example. There's no air. How long can you live without breathing air?. Who created the air?.



3. Life and Health. OK. Only life and no health. Can you move about. (Health means strength and energy).



Think it over!!!!!!!!.



Wabillahhitaufiq Walhidayah Wassalamu'alaikum Warahmatullahhi Wabarakatuh.
Jaye16
2008-07-03 06:00:14 UTC
I think you received many great answers however, I don't think your question is about needing proof as much as you are asking how you can FEEL the presence of the Lord. I think that perhaps we are here to develop a faith and if you felt God/Allah's love and closeness all of the time then how would you ever test your faith so it grows? I believe every once in awhile everyone might feel Him (like a reassurance, but it isn't a constant thing for most people until they reach a certain level of understanding and faith. Many people believe that they connect and feel the closeness of God/Allah through meditation and prayer...maybe you could try this for awhile.



God/Allah Bless!

Namaste
Debbie's angel
2008-06-28 06:01:12 UTC
The way I look at it, is that we are all praying to god or allah which is what you call him, I do not understand what the big deal is, we all have our beliefs, be good to others, obey your religious teachings, and be understanding of others beliefs, it doesnt matter to me what religion you are from, we all pray to the same person, so what all the uproar is about I dont know, and we all question our faith at times especially when we are tested the most, the only thing I can say is that bad things happen to good people all the time regardless of their race or religion, my mother always told me when I doubted his existence is that sometimes when we ask for something, the answer is no, we have to accept that and know that it was meant to be even though some things are so mindless its hard to keep the faith, its a personal thing though and you have to find the answers within yourself, hope this helps you though, goodluck! :)
lotus cat
2008-07-03 02:59:12 UTC
This human mind is like a cunning animal and never finds peace of mind because it always questions as it is its nature to question, so it never stills unless we learn to become its master. Anyway, as you know in Islam the heart is the place for the soul. You have to open your heart and this requires some stilling of the mind so that the heart and mind are not at loggerheads. Learn to reflect more, spending much time in quiet contemplation. Trust in Allah subhana wa ta'ala and ask in your dua'a for more understanding and peace of mind. Remember, only 10% of the human brain or less is used, doesn't this suggest that we can never expect to understand much of the unseen through this trickster called the mind. Hope to have a firmer belief and more faith - make dua'a for that, acknowledging your lowly condition as a human. Repeatedly tell yourself that you know nothing (humility) and do not allow this trickster of a mind, which is working at minimal capacity, to arrogantly think it can know everything, demanding proof when it has such little comprehension. Not trying to put you down but just show you how the human mind is pretty much useless as a tool for comprehending the divine. Real knowledge and knowingness comes through the heart, by the grace of Allah subhana wa ta'ala. We have to earn that grace also. Whenever your mind is troubled, at that moment, don't forget to say: La ilaha illa Allah



Our understanding really is so little, and that is OK because we are human. Thus embrace your lowly condition as a human of little understanding. But hope for more Understanding, insha'Allah by servitude and humility before Allah subhana wa ta'ala.



"Glory to Him! He is high above all that they say!- Exalted and Great (beyond measure)! The seven heavens and the earth, and all beings therein, declare His glory: there is not a thing but celebrates His praise; And yet ye understand not how they declare His glory! Verily He is Oft-Forbear, Most Forgiving!" [Qur'an 17:43-44]



"Neither doth My earth nor My heaven contain Me (God), but the heart of My faithful servant containeth Me." (Hadith Qudsi)



"Dear friend, your heart is a polished mirror. You must wipe it clean of the veil of dust that has gathered upon it, because it is destined to reflect the light of divine secrets." Al-Ghazali



"In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

Allah! There is no God but He,

the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal.

No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep.

All things in heaven and earth are His.

Who could intercede in His presence without His permission?

He knows what appears in front of and behind His creatures.

Nor can they encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills.

His throne extends over the heavens and the earth,

and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them,

for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.

Allah, the Most High, speaks the truth."

[Qur'an Surah al-Baqarah (Ayat Al Kursi) 2:255]



AsSalaam alaykum.
?
2008-06-28 08:33:22 UTC
Sara, Astri k



let's assume you have the required materials to build a ship, house, make a car etc.. could you give it an order to build itself? would it respond to you?



Once a atheist requested a Muslim Imam for a debate, he wanted a proof of God existence. That day, the Imam came late for some purpose, as he arrived, the atheist told the Imam that he delayed because he is afraid he won't do well in this debate, the Imam kept silent for a while then told him: well, I came late because I wanted to cross a river, but i couldn't, then suddenly a timber pack grouped together and made a boat itself! The atheist couldn't believe and told the Imam: how come? your a liar! The Imam said: So how do you believe God does not exist? Who is the creator of you? Who created the sky, the Earth and the whole Universe?
anonymous
2008-06-28 06:19:56 UTC
If I told you that the shirt you wear was created by nobody, it is just that the threads flew up in the air and got together and then formed that nice and tidy shirt.. would you believe that?



So how come some (not talking about you!) dont believe that Allah exists?!



Have you ever taken any course in 'biology'?

If so, what do you think of the complexity of the body of humans?

Their cells!!! How come this extremely and infinitely microscopic entity contain even smaller components, and that is what our bodies are composed of? That's so creative and nothing matches this creativity and uniqueness!



Hope that helped : )
WaseemHeart
2008-06-28 07:34:50 UTC
ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM

DONT MIND my dear but you some litle think like atheist.

dear read it carefully, i hope it will help you.



forexample

If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, ‘the creator of that object.’ Some may say ‘the producer’ while others may say ‘the manufacturer.’ What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don’t grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it



THEORY OF PROBABILITY



In mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.



A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.



Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.





At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.



The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.



Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.



The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine.



CREATOR IS THE AUTHOR OF THE QUR’AN





The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the ‘CREATOR’, the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is ‘God’, or more appropriate in the Arabic language, ‘ALLAH’.



QUR’AN IS A BOOK OF SIGNS AND NOT SCIENCE



Let me remind you that the Qur’an is not a book of Science, ‘S-C-I-E-N-C-E’ but a book of Signs ‘S-I-G-N-S’ i.e. a book of ayaats. The Qur’an contains more than 6,000 ayaats, i.e. ‘signs’, out of which more than a thousand speak about Science. I am not trying to prove that the Qur’an is the word of God using scientific knowledge as a yard stick because any yardstick is supposed to be more superior than what is being checked or verified. For us Muslims the Qur’an is the Furqan i.e. criteria to judge right from wrong and the ultimate yardstick which is more superior to scientific knowledge.



But for an educated man who is an atheist, scientific knowledge is the ultimate test which he believes in. We do know that science many a times takes ‘U’ turns, therefore I have restricted the examples only to scientific facts which have sufficient proof and evidence and not scientific theories based on assumptions. Using the ultimate yardstick of the atheist, I am trying to prove to him that the Qur’an is the word of God and it contains the scientific knowledge which is his yardstick which was discovered recently, while the Qur’an was revealed 1400 year ago. At the end of the discussion, we both come to the same conclusion that God though superior to science, is not incompatible with it.





SCIENCE IS ELIMINATING MODELS OF GOD BUT NOT GOD



Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small ‘g’ that is fake god) but God (with a capital ‘G’).



Surah Fussilat:



"Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"



[Al-Quran 41:53]



ALLAH HELP YOU

ALLAH HAFIZ
anonymous
2008-06-28 06:23:19 UTC
Allah subhana wata3la is close to every one of us sometimes when u pray and pray from ur heart u can feel it when u do zekar or recite the quran, or even hear the quran ur heart knows.. i used to feel like that when i was younger but i now truly in my heart that Allah (swt) does exist. maybe u should do dua for allah to guide u the right way. inshallah all ur questions will be resolved..
36
2008-06-28 07:27:53 UTC
if you can produce your own grain, hatch a chick out of an egg 28 days ago was just liquid....then you can disbelieve that allah swt exists.

Praise be to Allah, I am glad you ask this question for it means you are a thinking person. You will be an excellent defender of islam, masha allah.
Pakistani Chap (Serious)
2008-06-28 17:50:30 UTC
Do not ask 'where is God?' but ask 'where am I?' All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen.



The Human eye can only see to a certain extent, likewise with the human brain, it can only think to a certain extent. It's hard for our little brains to comprehend Allah, or his existence. But logic and reason allows us to conclude, He does exist.



Reflect on the work of art and you may attain to the artist.
Sidrah
2008-07-01 12:55:27 UTC
You just have 2 belive and trust in Allah
?
2008-06-28 06:19:43 UTC
God has not put any direct proof of his existence for human.

You have to decide whether you believe or do not believe

depending on intelligence, logic and knowledge.

If you believe God, then you will find plenty of cases how God loves you.

For instance, you can not live more than 2 minutes without oxygen. God has given abundant of oxygen around you free of cost. You are submerged in air which contains oxygen

that you need.

Think of another instance: You need light for your eyesight. If air was not transparent you would become blind. God loves you and for that he made air as transparent. Any more !

May God bless you.
iojhyt675
2008-06-28 09:20:24 UTC
you are going through this stage of which Allah put you between yourself and your heart:

"8.24":..... and know that Allah intervenes between man and his heart, and that to Him you shall be gathered.

الانفال (آية:24): .....واعلموا ان الله يحول بين المرء وقلبه وانه اليه تحشرون



to answer your questions,it's by this verse from the Quran, praise and remember Allah alot, with remembering Allah it comes rest to the mind and the heart.



"13.28": Those who believe and whose hearts are set at rest by the remembrance of Allah; now surely by Allah's remembrance are the hearts set at rest.

الرعد (آية:28): الذين امنوا وتطمئن قلوبهم بذكر الله الا بذكر الله تطمئن القلوب
anonymous
2008-07-01 11:23:41 UTC
Don't ever ask that stupid question again, if you are a Muslim then you should know Allah exist.
hanabee
2008-06-28 06:06:23 UTC
Just like our brain exists but we don't see it, Allah also exists & we don't see him.
habibi_101
2008-06-28 10:57:40 UTC
if you were to add up all of the blood vessels and viens and arteries in your body, they would all add up to 15,000 miles!!!



if you were to stretch just ONE strand of your dna (which is in the nucleus of one cell, which is microscopic), it would reach from here to the moon!!!



those are just two little examples of the human body... people look at this information, and tell me we evolved from single celled bacteria?? i think not!!



haha.. i dunno.. whenever i feel like i don't believe in God or i'm losing my faith, i just think of the 15000 miles of veins and i think subhanallah... :)



hope this helps.
­­what?
2008-06-28 06:19:02 UTC
you cant, thats why its called faith....



sara... NO ONE CARES IF UR ATHEIST, OR EX MUSLIM OR WHATEVER!!! BUT DO YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND COMMENT ON EVERY REAL QUESTION THAT GOES ON IN THIS SECTION!!!!??? GEEZ!!!!



BTW, AT LEAST WE HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE, AND INSHALLAH, AFTERLIFE!!! NOT SOME LIFE WHERE WE GET DRUNK EVERY NIGHT AT DIFFERENT CLUBS AND SLEEP WITH RANDOM STRANGERS (GUY OR GIRL OR BOTH)



ASTAGHRALLAH!!!!!
anonymous
2008-06-28 06:05:22 UTC
You can't be to sure you have to see what happens after you die.
itsjustme
2008-06-28 06:11:48 UTC
There is no God. It's just a myth. That's why you'll never feel him close to you, because he doesn't exist.



If you research the subject, you'll see that I am right. Open your mind!
♫Life is short♥
2008-06-28 10:29:25 UTC
Allahu ta 'ala Exists Without A Place

[Laa Makaan]



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Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds, to Him belong the endowments and the befitting perfections and commendations. I ask Allah to raise the rank of Prophet Muhammad, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, and to protect his nation from that which he fears for it.



Thereafter:







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The saying that Allah, ta^ala, exists without a place is the belief and the creed of the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, the Companions and those who graciously followed them, and it shall be until the Day of Judgment. The proof of this precious statement is what Allah said in the Qur'an, in Surat ash-Shura, ayah 11:





which means: "There is nothing like Him and He has the attribute of Hearing and Seeing." This ayah absolutely and totally clears Allah of resembling the creation. It comprises that Allah, ta^ala, is different from the creations in the Self, Attributes, and Doings. Hence, it shows that Allah, ta^ala, exists without a place, because the one who exists in a place would, by nature, be composed of atoms, i.e., he would be a body, occupying a space, and Allah, ta^ala, is clear of occupying spaces.



Al-Bukhariyy, al-Bayhaqiyy and Ibn al­Jarud related that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, said:





which means: "Allah existed eternally and there was nothing else." This hadith proves that Allah was alone in al-'azal, (the status of existence without a beginning,) i.e., before creating any of the creation. There was nothing with Him: no place, no space, no sky, no light, and no darkness. It is determined in the rules of the Religion and the judgments of the sound mind that Allah, the Exalted, does not change. Hence, it is impossible that after having been existing without a place, He would become in a place, because this is a development, and the development is a sign of needing others, and the one who needs others is not God.



Imam Abu Mansur al-Baghdadiyy related in his book, Al-Farqu Bayn al­Firaq, that Imam ^Aliyy, the fourth of the caliphs, may Allah reward his deeds, said:





which means: "Allah existed eternally and there was no place, and He now is as He was, i.e., without a place."



Imam Abu Hanifah, who is one of the authorities of as-Salaf, said in his book Al-Fiqh al­Absat: "Allah existed eternally and there was no place. He existed before creating the creation. He existed, and there was no place, creation, or thing; and He is the Creator of everything."



Imam al-Hafidh al-Bayhaqiyy said in his book, Al-Asma'u was-Sifat, on page 400: ".... What was mentioned towards the end of the hadith is an indication of denying Allah has a place and denying the slave is alike to Allah, wherever he was in proximity or remoteness. Allah, the Exalted, is adh­Dhahir--hence, it is valid to know about Him by proofs. Allah is al-Batin--hence, it is invalid that He would be in a place." He also said: "Some of our companions used as a proof to refute the place to Allah the saying of the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam : 'You are adh-Dhahir and there is nothing above You, and You are al-Batin and there is nothing underneath You.' Therefore, if there is nothing above Him and nothing underneath Him, He is not in a place."



Imam Ahmad Ibn Salamah, Abu Ja^far at­Tahawiyy, who was born in the year 237 after Hijrah, wrote a book called Al-^Aqidah at­Tahawiyyah. He mentioned that the content of his book is an elucidation of the creed of Ahl as­Sunnah wal Jama^ah, which is the creed of Imam Abu Hanifah, who died in the year 150 after al­Hijrah, and his two companions, Imam Abu Yusuf al-Qadi and Imam Muhammad Ibn al­Hasan ash-Shaybaniyy and others. He said in his book: "Allah is supremely clear of all boundaries, extremes, sides, organs and instruments. The six directions do not contain Him--these are attributed to all created things." Such is the saying of Imam Abu Ja^far who is among the heads of as-Salaf. He explicitly stated that Allah is clear of being contained by the six directions. The six directions are above, below, in front of, behind, right, and left.



The linguist and scholar of hadith, Imam Muhammad Murtada az-Zabidiyy, narrated by a continuous chain from himself back to Imam Zayn al-^Abidin ^Aliyy Ibn al-Husayn Ibn ^Aliyy Ibn Abi Talib, (who was among the first of as-Salaf, who earned the title of as-Sajjad, i.e., the one who prays a lot), that Zayn al-^Abidin said in his treatise as­Sahifah as-Sajjadiyyah about Allah:









which means: "O Allah, You are clear of all imperfection. You are Allah, the One Who no place contains You." He also said:





which means: "O Allah, You are clear of all imperfection. You are Allah, the One Who is not in boundaries."



In the explanation of al-Bukhariyy in the chapter on Al-Jihad, Hafidh Ibn Hajar said: "The fact that the two directions above and below are impossible to be attributes of Allah, does not necessitate that Allah would not be attributed with aboveness, because attributing aboveness to Allah is a matter of status and the impossibility lies in it being physical."



The scholar Imam Zayn ad-Din Ibn Nujaym, the Hanafiyy, in his book Al-Bahr ar­Ra'iq, on page 129 said: "Whoever says it is possible that Allah would do a doing in which there is no wisdom commits blasphemy, and also he commits blasphemy by affirming a place to Allah, the Exalted."



Imam Ahmad ar-Rifa^iyy al-Kabir, who lived around the year 600 after al-Hijrah, said:



which means: "The ultimate knowledge about Allah is to be certain that Allah exists without a how or a place."



Imam Muhammad Ibn Hibah al-Makkiyy, in his book Hada'iq al-Fusul wa Jawahir al-^Uqul,--also called Al-^Aqidat-as-Salahiyyah because he gave it as a gift to Sultan Salah-ad-Din al-Ayyubiyy who ordered that this book be taught to the children in schools and broadcast from the top of minarets--said:





which means: "Allah existed eternally and there was no place, and the judgment about His existence now is that He is as He was, i.e., without a place."

Imam Ja^far as-Sadiq said: "He who claims that Allah is in something or on something or from something, commits ash-shirk. Because if He was in something, He would be contained, and if He was on something, He would be carried, and if He was from something, He would be a creature."



Shaykh ^Abdul-Ghaniyy an-Nabulsiyy said: "He who believes that Allah fills the heavens and earth or that He is a body sitting above al-^arsh (ceiling of Paradise; throne) is a kafir."



Imam Abul-Qasim ^Aliyy Ibnul-Hasan Ibn Hibatillah Ibn ^Asakir said in his ^Aqidah: "Allah existed before the creation. He does not have a before or an after, an above or a below, a right or a left, an in front of or a behind, a whole or a part. It must not be said when was He, where was He, or how was He. He exists without a place."



Imam Abu Sulayman al-Khattabiyy said: "What is obligatory upon us and upon every Muslim to know is that our Lord has no shape or form, because the shape has a 'how' and 'how' does not apply to Allah or His Attributes."



Know beyond doubt that the question 'how' does not apply to Allah, because this is a question about shapes, bodies, places, depths and dimensions; Allah is clear of all of that. Also be firm that it is invalid to say about Allah "... but we do not know how", because in essence, it falsely indicates that Allah has a color, shape, dimensions, body, place, but one is ignorant of the 'how' of it.



Imam al-Ghazaliyy said: " Allah, the Exalted, existed eternally and there was no place. He is not a body, jawhar (atom), or property, and He is not on a place or in a place."



All of these sayings show that attributing the sensuous physical aboveness and place to Allah is contrary to the Qur'an, the Hadith, the Ijma^, and the intellectual proof. The intellectual proof that Allah exists without a place lies in the fact that the one who is in a place would have an area, and the one who has an area is in need of it, and the one who needs others is not God. Moreover, as the mind determines that Allah existed without a place before creating places, the mind determines that after Allah created the places He still exists without a place.



The scholars like Imam Ahmad ar­Rifa^iyy determined that lifting the hands and the faces towards the sky when performing du^a (supplication) is because the heavens are the qiblah of du^a just as the Ka^bah is the qiblah of as­Salah. From the heavens, the mercies and blessings of Allah descend.



Hence, it is clear for the one who seeks the truth that the saying that Allah exists without a place is what complies with theQur'an, the Hadith, the Ijma^, and the criteria of the sound intellect. Be firm and certain that before creating places, Allah Who created everything (places and others), existed without a place, and after creating places, He still exists without a place.



Since we have determined that the creed of the Muslims is that Allah exists without a place and that the question 'how' does not apply to Allah, it is clear to us that al-^arsh (the throne) which is the biggest of the creations of Allah and the ceiling of Paradise, is not a place for Allah, the Exalted.



Imam Abu Mansur al-Baghdadiyy related that Imam ^Aliyy Ibn Abi Talib, the fourth caliph, said:





which means: "Allah created al-^arsh as an indication of His Power and did not take it as a place for Himself."



Imam Abu Hanifah said in his book, al­Wasiyyah,: " ... and He is
Santa Clatz
2008-06-28 06:01:31 UTC
You can't. There's no proof.



Well, other than 'the Quran saying so,' which IS considered circular logic no matter how many thumbs downs I get.
anonymous
2008-06-28 06:12:46 UTC
you cant prove that fairy tales are correct right?


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